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03 Sep, 2010

Lack of CarBo on Purpose?

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by Ron


Bo Doesn’t Want To Do Right
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- Roman’s house
- Crimes actually solved by the Salem P.D.
- Abe actually on the job as the Mayor
- Chez Rouge
- Someone go to jail that actually deserves it

I’m just listing things that over the past few months we’ve seen almost as much as CarBo together as a couple. Its bad enough that Bo was gone for two months but since he’s returned I’d literally be shocked if the number of scenes these two have had together even cracks double digits. It seems like Carly is in more of a relationship with Chloe than she is with Bo at this point.

I’ve racked my brain trying to figure out why this is. Why are the writers not giving them scenes together? I’ve never seen a loving couple spend less time together with the exception of Pac-Man & Mrs. Pac-Man(I’ve never seen them together). I thought maybe the lack of CarBo was because other storylines needed more time so they just got pushed to the back burner. For a second I thought maybe the writers keep forgetting CarBo was a couple now, which actually wouldn’t shock me. After some more extensive thinking, the light bulb came on and a question popped in my head. Could the lack of CarBo scenes be on purpose because they don’t want the fans to get too attached to them?

Its no secret that once CarBo breaks up, that’s it, its a wrap, they’re not getting back together. That’s the biggest difference between EJami(and even Lumi fans) and CarBo fans. No matter who Sami is with there will always be light at the end of the tunnel for the EJamis and Lumis. There’s always a possibility of reconciliation. But when it comes the the CarBo fans when Bo & Hope get back together, they’ll be together until the end of time, unless someone leaves the show. There are no more conceivable reasons for Bope to break up anymore. The writers have obviously been teasing Bo & Hope reuniting for months now and maybe they feel like if they keep showing us less and less of CarBo, we’ll slowly start forgetting about them and when they break up, it will be easier to take and will be less of a backlash from the CarBo community.

Look, I like to think of us CarBos as a highly intelligent bunch. We know that the end game is obviously Bo & Hope, though it doesn’t make sense because despite their 25 year history(and there are a bunch of gaps in that 25 years) Carly is obviously better catch of the two. I’d like to think I speak on behalf of Team CarBo when I say that if you’re going to break up Carly & Bo at least make their time together memorable. Give us some stuff that makes us satisfied with the time that Carly & Bo have had together, because at this point the writers are failing miserably in that department. I want CarBo reuniting to actually seem worth while and not just seem like the writers are just biding their time until they pull the trigger on Bo & Hope reuniting.

So I ask, is it possible that the writers just don’t want us to get too attached to CarBo, or could there be another reason that a couple with so much chemistry is hardly written for?



  • Karen M.

    I’m not really in CarBo or Bopes’ camp necessarily…I’m not seeing a lot of chemistry between either one lately (actually, not for quite some time).
    But I love your post and your thoughts….your intro was the best, very funny!
    (Oh, but i would agree that Carly is the better catch btwn the two).

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/sk8ergrrl85 Jessi G.

    You may be on to something Ron. I feel the show is attached to BOPE like a security blanket and they refuse to let it go. Maybe they think that they made a mistake on bringing Carly because of the fans that came back. It should show them that CARBO is the end game, not BOPE. More and more fans have come back, new fans have surfaced and even BOPE fans have converged to CARBO. They love the chemistry, they love the real adult relationship and they love Peter with Crystal. The acting seems so much better there. I think they need to give CARBO at chance. They only time CARBO was a front burner was during the Melanie stuff, and they weren’t officially a couple. Now they are a couple, the show got scared. CARBO is a win win, I believe the show will stay around longer if they give CARBO a chance. Stop putting Carly with other peoples crap and stop making Bo feel guilty over stuff he had no control over. CARBO is it for me. If they are done, so am I… days can get canceled for all I care…

  • sheri

    i hate carly.

  • Kristen L

    I’m not a fan of Bo and Carly. I think Bo and Hope are a super couple and while they have their issues, they can work through them. I’m into the idea of Carly and Daniel. Although Daniel and Chloe have, well had, excellent chemistry. Right now, we’re not seeing any of that intensity between them and it’s kinda lame.

  • Sarah

    well first of all lets remember this is just a soap opera on tv. One that I have watched way over the years since I was little. And fairly addicted. And im just going to say this. I love carly to death. But hope DOES have wayyyyy more history with bo than carly probly ever could. Regardless of who does or doesnt like hope(i read that somebody cant stand hope. For the record I happen to love her.Shes great on the show and for bo). So if the writers want to run with this bo and carly thing so be it. But I have to say it she couldnt really add up to hope and her history with bo. I do love carly to death I just dont think they really belong together. I think bo and hope need to reconcile and just do what they shouldve done months ago. Get back together. My god their daughter misses her mother. Let her back in for crying out loud. On the flip side there is nothing wrong with bo and carly JUST STAYING FRIENDS. And then again on another flip side of that and positive side I think everybody is doing great on there. I hope days never ends. Lots of love.:)

  • Michelle

    I agree with your take on this Ron. I only came back to Days when I learned that Carly was back. Pairing her with Bo was the icing on the cake. I am a CarBo fan through and through and and have been very dissapointed in the writing for them as a couple. I have always said that I don’t believe the writers thought the fanbase and support for CarBo would be quite so large. It was supposed to be a simple bump in the road for Bope but turned out that the CarBo fanbase is just as big as if not bigger then the Bope fanbase so now they are running scared. I think they thought if they did some backpeddaling and quit writing for CarBo that fans would accept it and move on so the breakup would be easier. Like you said not as much backlash from the fans. They have mistaken the fans though because all they have done is cause us to want to fight harder for our beloved couple. As much as I love CC and PR I do believe that if the show continues in the direction it is going I will once again tune out.

  • Lyn

    I’ve been watching Days for 45 years and consider myself a devoted fan. But ever since John and Marlena left, and Patch and Kayla — and very little of Bo and Hope — I hardly ever watch anymore. I continue to read the dayscafe synopsis but am not interested in Sami and her men and definitely not Chloe and her whiny self. It’s sad but I prefer General Hospital and Bold and Beautiful

  • Michelle

    BTW I loved the video Ron!

  • Lisa (SwimCutieAKB)

    I couldn’t agree more with what Jessi said. I think TPTB just thought the timing was fortunate when they were able to pick up CC and only brought back the character of Carly as a new obstacle for BOPE, but TPTB had no clue what kind of following CC would bring from her days on GL. Nor were they prepared for the number of CARBO 1.0 tragics who waited 17 years for this reunion or the number of new fans who would fall in love with CARBO 2.0. And yes, I think TPTB are terrified of moving forward without their BOPE security blanket. And like Jessi, I really feel like I have no reason other than CARBO to watch the show. If CARBO ends permanently it’s game over for my viewership as well.

  • giftofamber

    It’s not even that it’s a lack of Carbo….it’s a lack of *CARLY* period. The first thing I hear on twitter every Monday thru Friday is “Is it a Carly day?” I like DOOL; it has sentimental value to me. I don’t want to see it cancelled. A *big* piece of that sentimental value is Dr. Carly Manning, which the show has been decidedly lacking. If she’s on an episode, it’s for 30 seconds. That sentimental feeling is the *only* reason I’ve been watching lately. (New headwriters please???)

    But many of my cohorts are not quite as attached to the show as I am and simply watch to see what outfit Carly is wearing on a given day and don’t tune in if she’s not on. So the lack of Carly and the lack of a Carly storyline is also showing in the ratings. What happened to the DAYS when Carly had to save Jennifer from the Alamains when Jenn was pretending to be Katerina, or when Carly was racing against time to find a cure for whats his name.

  • Rachel

    You may have a point with TPTB don’t want you to get attached to Carbo but its a little late for that. I thank God everyday for the invention of youtube cos I can go back and relive the highlights and lowlights of the Carbo relationship, the acting is top notch and the chemistry between Peter and Crystal is there, some are just too oblivious to acknowledge it. And as a good debater I would look at both sides of the argument and yes Bo and Hope have history but its a rocky one, the 27 years of so-called history, a significant percentage of that is spent apart. And honestly Bo has been the punching bag through out his relationship, Hope always expect him to come back to her. If you really want to think of Hope as a strong, independent character then let her be that without Bo by her side and stop finding every reason in the book to fight with him just to get back together again. The screams boring! Bo on the other has been an adult, he’s tried time and time again to fix Hope’s problems and I’m tired of him holding her up on a pedestal, a good marriage should be about equality and I don’t see that with Bope. With Bo and Carly they give and take equally, you constantly see that with Carly’s character, she is willing to be the martyr to keep Bo happy, but you see it in his expressions and his eyes, he constantly pulls her back. He needs her just as much as she needs him, Peter and Crystal play that angst perfectly. I love watching them battle themselves to be together, I still cry watching their first time around. Carly was written out of the picture poorly but the PTB have a chance to rectify that, now there is just so much of her character to be explored and I for one would love to tune in to that journey! I justify my reasons to like Carbo, I don’t just like them for the sake of liking the actors..

  • Sandy

    Ron, I loved the video even though I’m not a fan of CARBO…I’ve been watching DOOL since the very 1st day with my Mom….many moons ago. LOL I think Carly (Crystal) is a great actress but I don’t want her with Bo. BOPE are having problems just like any other marriage (well maybe not the extreme that Hope went) but you know what I mean, and the 1st thing a man does is run to someone else instead of facing and working out the problems. I think they should show Bo working with Hope on all of the problems and coming out stronger. I believe that Carly and Daniel will find themselves back together once everything comes out about Chloe and the baby and they get rid of the whining Chloe.

    But I did love the video…You did a great job.

  • Ruby

    ..nice theory, I don’t believe in “meant to be” especially in the Soap world -… Nothing is Certain!
    CARBO FTW!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Eric-Dale-Eubanks/834706597 <fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="834706597">Eric Dale Eubanks</fb:name>

    I think the “Bope” outcome is inevitable. They’re the Last DAYS Supercouple Standing. And — per a post from DaysTalk that I read first but which came later than this one — if the DiMeras and the Kiriakis family go “a’feudin’” again, we’ll need our SuperCouple Law-Enforcement types front and center again, surely…

  • Alicia E

    What about a Carbo/Bope triangle? That’s what we’ve got right now anyway… Both couples are believable and the drama would never run dry. I seriously think that’s what might happen. As long as Bope is a possibility, we have Bope and like-wise with Carbo. Now, I’m not necessarily advocating this scenario, but I do see it as plausible.

  • Barbara Kwiatkowski

    Not into Bo and Carly, or Hope ~~but in soap world anything can change~

  • Penny M

    Oh please. Make all the points you want to make. But Bo and Hope will always be soulmates and each others first and true love. Carlys was Lawrence, and even chose him after her relationship with Bo!!! Hope has never chosen anyone else over Bo in the name of love! And Bo only got with Carly I think because they never really had closure, he was lonely, and partially to get back at Hope for leaving with Ciara when she left their home to get her treatment to overcome the kidnapping and seeing her Uncle shot in her own home! I am SO glad they have not shown the 2 of them together in a long time because seeing them together makes me nauteous!

  • Marlena

    Carly and Bo are OVER !!!! Bo & Hope belong together & forever !

  • Natalie

    I think Bo and Carly are boring and have absolutely no chemistry. And I think the show can see it too, hence the lack of Bo and Carly. I get that people like them together, but its a big stretch to imply that they come anywhere close to the level of Bo and Hope’s popularity. TPTB don’t keep reuniting Bo and Hope because they are scared or think of them as a security blanket. Why is it so hard to believe that they are actually a popular couple and the ROOTING couple for the general audience? The decisions the show makes aren’t based on a few fans that are making some noise for their favorite couple…there are a lot of other factors involved. Bo and Hope are always going to prevail!!!

  • Jennifer M

    This is hard for me because I remember the Bope of old when Hope was a teen and Bo was the bad boy with a heart. I also remember Carbo back in the day when Bo thought Hope was dead. I’m still mad at Hope for walking out on Bo when she should have stayed and worked things out. I see Carly hurting when she tries to explane to Ciara why her mommy isn’t with her. I find myself go poor Carly, she’s such a good person that she’ll give up her own happiness to make Bo happy. I can see Carly stepping down and letting Bo go to Hope. I just want to cry because I feel in that way Carly loves Bo more than Hope.

  • KatieR

    LMFAO, “Pac-Man and Mrs. Pac-Man” hahaha
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    I think you’re right Ron. I believe DOOL is not showing CarBo together on purpose. DOOL is trying to limit the fallout of keeping Bo and Hope apart and the bigger fallout of having Bo in a serious relationship with someone other than Hope.

  • Marcia

    Love your post. At this point I am SO tired of Hope. Everytime something happens in her life her first reaction is to cut and run. Each and I mean everytime Bo has forgiven her and worked on being a loving husband. How much more is the man supposed to take? And when did Hope become so “weak” her strength was one of the reasons I loved her character. She is acting as my youngest god-daughter says like a “ninny” and I had no sympathy for her during the whole NT Hope story.

    In regards to Carly, look at all she has endured at the hands of Viv and Lawrence Alamain (buried alive, giving up her infant daughter and the alienation of her son) but she manages to hold her head up every day while being treated as something to remove from the bottom of shoes by most of Salem. Did they all forget what Lawrence was like? I guess when writing Carly’s return the DOOL writing staff did not check the archives for backgraound because at least one person other than Jennifer should have remembered what Lawrence was evil.

  • Ron

    Bo & Hope were my favorite couple on the show for nine years. And remained my favorite couple even when Hope was treating Bo like crap. And I’m usually defensive of characters I like when a new character comes on the show. Anytime I hear about a doctor coming on the show part of me gets upset becuase I’m afraid the show is going to give Lexie the boot. And when I heard that Carly was coming on the show I got a bit defensive because while I had not seen the older Carly scenes yet, I wasn’t in favor of really splitting Bo & Hope up long term.
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    Then once Carly arrived and started having scenes with Bo I thought to myself, this isn’t that bad. Then as time went on I found myself looking forward to CarBo scenes more and more. And after a while I was literally thinking “Hope who?” After seeing Carly & Bo together I found myself not wanting a Bope reunion because I liked the CarBo pairing so much more.
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    I thought Bope had chemistry, which they do but CarBos chemistry just b*tchslaps Bope’s to me. I equate Bope’s chemistry to a chicken nuggets from Wendy’s. I used to love them, and thought that there are no better nuggets in the world. Then I had nuggets from Chick-Fil-A now the Wendy’s nuggets just pale in comparison. That’s how I fell about Bope now that CarBo’s come along. Its not that I don’t like Bope anymore, I just MUCH rather have CarBo, and for me going back to Bope is just going to be a disappointment for me.
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    As for Bo & Hope being meant for each other, in the town of Salem I don’t believe in all that soulmates stuff because like someone brought up in a post a couple weeks ago Marlena obviously moved on from Roman, then Bo can move on from Hope. But obviously the writers aren’t going to go that route.
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    Whether you agree with me or not thanks to everyone who likes the post/video.

  • Mikey M

    I like Carly and I like Bo but not necessarily together.
    Bo belongs with Hope and I guess that is because of the long history together.

  • Hannah

    I like Carbo -and Bope to a degree, but Hope has really annoyed me with the way seh treated Bo before she was NT Hope. So, I tend to side with Carbo.

  • Izzy

    Maybe the lack of Barly screentime is because they lack real chemistry and ratings tanked when they put them together. I don’t think it has anything to do with TPTB being “afraid” they will win too many fans. What a crock!!! I think that’s wishful thinking on the part of Barly fans. Take a look at March ratings. That’s when Bo declared his love for Carly, they had their date, they had sex in Bo&Hope’s bed, he said she was all he could think about and ratings just kept on spiralling down the toilet that whole month; viewers tuned out, not in. All couples get backburnered at some point. Barly’s has come sooner than most because they’re boring.

  • Bobbie

    All I’m doing is riding the storyline. Beau is beginning to be so embarrassed and haunted since he began to realize that Hope’s breakdown was his fault. Carly and he look uncomfortable everywhere they are together. The relationship breakdown seems to be beginning.

    Plus with all the Brady family and Victor’s snarky comments to Carly, she can’t feel very comfortable.

    If the writers keep up the writing correctly, this could be pure fun because the actors are working it well and if written well can be a slow painful death of a relationship.

    It is the Viv vs Maggie storyline that gags me. Is Vivian that single minded that coffins or sarcophagus’ are the only way she knows to rid her life of people. Thought Viv would be more inventive.

    I’m so hoping the tables will be turned on Viv and she will end up in the sarcophagus (?sp) instead, but only DOOL know what they want to do. Sadly, I fast-forward through Vivian when she is contemplating burying Maggie.

  • Faith

    Ron, that vid and post were spot on about both couples. I ship Carbo for the same reason … Chicken Mcnuggets from Chic – Fila. Anyway, days have a VERY and I mean very big problem. Love the song my friend. I have been waiting for Carbo to return for 17 yrs and the actors delivered a steller preformance everytime. Go Team Carbo. Your right, Carly does love Bo more than Hope.

  • Libby

    Over the years – Days has consistently picked up big stars from fellow daytime shows like Genie Francis, Louise Sorel, Stephen Nicols, MBE, Chrystal Chappell, Michael Sabitino, Billy Warlock to name just a few — without having a REAL storyline for them.
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    This rendition of Carly and Bo never had a thoughtful Bible story planned for Carly’s return to Salem.. That is why the Carly- Bo sl has never really been off the ground as many had hoped and anticipated. Bo and Hope are iconic to Days – especially in the wake of budget cuts and decisions made several years ago for the survival of Days into the 2000s.
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    I hope the new writer to replace D. Higley comes soon and comes with a real solid plan for Chrystal Chappell and Carly. Right now for all of us – the actress and the character of Carly remains in limbo in Salem.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Angela-Jeter/100001401972283 <fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="100001401972283">Angela Jeter</fb:name>

    I am a Carbo lover from way back. I feel cheated by the lack of story for Bo and Carly and really wish TPBT would give them a fair chance. I really don’t think they expected as much noise from the Carbo fans or for Carbo to have as many fans. Do I think Carbo is being treated unfairly by the PTB? Yeck yeah! They are shafted when it comes to pretty much everything. The really don’t get the same screen time as any other couple on the show. After the initial storyline with Carly revealing Melanie as her daughter, Bo and Carly started having 20-30 second scenes when they did finally get a scene together.

    TPBT should give them a chance. They have such a huge fan follwoing and really have had no story to draw people in, yet they still have won fans. That says a lot to the chemistry of the actors. That is not something TPTB should ignore.

  • Ron

    Izzy no offense but are you sure the ratings spiraled down in March because of CarBo because from what I just saw those two only had about 7 scenes together then entire month, most of which only lasted a few minutes or were in a group of of people. I’m willing to bet that the drawn out kidnapping storyline, the constant break up and make up of Ari & Brady, and the Chloe drama had a little bit more to do with the drop in ratings since they had a lot more screen time than CarBo.

  • Jane

    Izzy, Bo and Carly made love for the first time on January 11. The ratings for that day (2.3/3,358,000), and for the entire period when Carbo was front and center, were excellent.
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    I’ve been mystified by the lack of Carbo screen time for the last few months. Ron’s explanation makes a great deal of sense. I hope TPTB reconsider and give Carbo a fighting chance because they’re the main reason I’m watching the show.

  • denise

    Sorry, I’m not a Carly fan and I FF through her scenes with Bo. I don’t see any chemistry between them and wonder why TIIC always bring in another woman for Bo to bop whenever they want to create friction with Bope.

  • Cafe2222

    Ron I agree that Bo & Carly are being backburned. I believe this is because tptb decided a while ago that the other couple was going to be their “anchor couple” and are now afraid to show and their plan has backfired – Bo & Carly are a little to much competition. JMO :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Catherine-Delamater/100000385087715 <fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="100000385087715">Catherine Delamater</fb:name>

    I cant stand Bo with Carly. I want Bo and Hope back togeather. I grew up watching Bo and Hope loving each other. They have the kind of love that we all want. It is so wonderful to see couple love each other through the good and the bad times, and that is what Bo and Hope do. I am so looking forward to a Bo and Hope reunion. I loved the comment of “get Carly another man”. Better yet dump her ass in the Salem River!

  • olddoolfan

    TPTB are withholding Peter and Crystal / Bo & Carly on purpose I think because they are as aware as everyone where the real chemistry between these three actors lie. They are afraid to directly pit Bo & Carly against Bo & Hope.

    I am happy to put up my hand and admit that Bo and Hope have ALL kinds of years and history on their side. Of course they do but it is fairly telling and embarassing for this pairing that the writers and producers of this show are unprepared to actually make Bope stand up and be counted opposite Bo & Carly.

    Crystal arrived in Salem in 1990 and imediately set about stealing the hearts of fans with Carly. Not on her own (although undoubtedly she was brilliant back then as a relative newcomer) but more importantly alongside Peter Reckell. These actors possess a generous dose of a little thing called x factor. There is a genuine connection between them and an ease of performance that makes these two characters really fit.

    Bo and Carly earned a legion of fans 20 years ago and many, many of them had come back.

    All I am askiung as a fan is for someone to actually write for them. To give them a shot. I am wholeheartedly prepared to have them face off against Bope in a triangle. May the best pairing and chemistry prevail. Absolutely no doubt in my mind that Reckell and Chappell would come out on top.

  • Melanie

    Great video Ron! And I agree with everything you said! I don’t care what TPTB have planned. I will never give up on Carbo!

  • Izzy

    If so many people were tuning in for Barly, then why did so many viewers tune out when they had their significant moments in March. Not saying they were the only reason ratings plummeted, but I keep hearing how if the writers and TPTB put Barly together that ratings will soar. Well the big nosedive happened in March. Viewers weren’t tuning in to see the I love you’s and sex scene and the dates and kisses then, why would now be any different? And why didn’t all those millions of people who supposedly tuned in for their sex scene in January tune in for the sequel in March? Maybe because Mickey didn’t die at the same time this time around and the Sydnapping reveal didn’t happen either.

  • Becky

    Ron you obviously didn’t get the memo. Happy couples are backburnered. That’s what supercouple fans are always told. But seriously, I don’t think there is any huge conspiracy going on. TPTB aren’t sitting there plotting how to get their show cancelled by ripping apart popular couples, or backburnering them and reuniting ratings cellar dwellers. It’s not rocket science. They’ve obviously done their research and analysis and discovered Barly don’t resonate with the general audience. Game over Barly, I’m afraid.

  • Kyra

    Ron thanks so much for your article. Very well said.

    I am a diehard Carbo fan and have been for the past 20 years. I attribute Carbo’s no screen time to politics going on at NBC. TPTB brought CC back to get their show renewed and to play around with Bope and I am sure they expected to reunite them shortly thereafter but I think their realization of this new fan base made them question that move and hence the NT s/l which I won’t even get into.

    Happy couples are boring in soaps. Period! If they reunite Bope what are they going to do with them? I don’t know much about KA but I think Peter would not be happy at playing the happy uncle and only being on once or twice a week. He has way to much talent for that. I like Peter when he plays with Crystal. To me those two breathe fresh air into a show that was honestly dying.

    IMO Carbo is back burned at the moment because they have to wrap up the silliness that was the NT s/l. Once that is done I can see them bringing them to the for front once more. I am going to guess around the time they need to be renewed again.

    On another note the writing has to improve on the show. I think the ratings fall can be squarely placed on their shoulder. They need imagination not just repeats of old storylines. How about a real well written triangle between CC/PR/KA? Why not bring on another love for KA? Or put KA with Dan? Why can we think outside the box is all I am saying. History often repeats itself but on DOOL I don’t think it’s worth it.

  • http://theprincessandthesailor.yuku.com shelle_cr

    I love Carly and Bo and I’ve loved them for years. For me, they are the best couple ever and I want them together. I would love for DAYS to write them a beautiful romantic storyline as they had in the 90s.

    I fell for them as a teen and even back then I knew they were special. Now, as an adult woman, I can appreciate what is it that makes them so unique in the soap world. They are two adults who behave like adults. Their love is mature and unconditional. They love and adore each other completely and they would do anything for each other. If this is not love, I don’t know what is.

    The chemsitry is beyond charts and Crystal Chappell and Peter Reckell can work with so little material and deliver so much. Honestly, I don’t know how they do it, but my heart jumps whenever they share one of their 20 secs moments per week or two. It’s all there – love, friendship, happines, sadness, romance, attraction, chemistry, fun. They were born to work together.

  • olddoolfan

    Izzy – the ratings across all soaps fell in March. Not just on DAYS but across all shows. DAYS maintained its position at the time relative to this general fall solidly in 3rd.

    In truth ratings for DAYS really began to fall when it was publically announced by Higley and Corday that both Ejami and Bo & Carly fans were to be screwed over and when the big push started for the character of Hope in this rather ludicrous storyline thet Higley cooked up – including the Alice farewell of June which really was yet another attempt to push Hope more than anything else.

    Bombed from mid April, bottomed out in May (bye bye sweeps)/June and honestly has never really recovered.

    Bo and Carly had some significant moments towards the end of March but since Reckell went on hiatus have largely been entirely withheld from the audience and really it is somewhat ludicrious to blame this pairing for a ratings plummet when Corday, Higley and Alfonso have been on full blow horn mode pumping Hope, the DT/NT storyline and a assured Bope reunion … while all the while the ratings continue to be poor. DAYS no longer sits happily and regularly between the 2nd and 3rd place spot as they did when Carly/Bo/Vivian/Melanie was one of the major front burn storylines.

    The numbers are there for all to see in black and white.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sally-Silver/100000215701413 <fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="100000215701413">Sally Silver</fb:name>

    I think that the main point shouldn’t be Bope or Carbo. I think the main point should be GOOD writing of a storyline for this triangle.

    On a soap neither pairing is gonna get that “happily ever after”. But what we can get is character growth and great stories about couples resolving those seemingly impossible situations.

    So all you fans of Days, both Bope and Carbo, lets get together and say, WRITE THEM ALL GOOD STORYLINES!

  • Izzy

    Oh yeah, go ahead, try and blame the current ratings on a Bope reunion or on the Nighttime Hope story. Let’s see: word gets out at Days breakfast in early June that Bo & Carly are breaking up and the Save Bo & Carly campaign begins. (By the way, Bo and Carly STILL haven’t broken up, so I’m not sure what needs saving). Peter says at the Emmys in late June that it looks like the writers will be putting Bo & Hope back together at some point. We didn’t see Nighttime Hope until mid-April. Bo left for LA at the end of the first week of April. Ratings started plummeting in late Feb and stopped the first week of April. Well before any of this happened. That’s the truth. By the time the Nighttime Hope story started, by the time anyone mentioned a Bope reunion, viewers had already left in droves. For all anyone here knows, the Nighttime Hope story may have stopped the ratings slide. NBC has staff who are paid to analyze the ratings. They do market research and audience surveys. All we are doing is guessing. But regardless of that, my question still remains. If viewers were tuning in for Bo & Carly, if them being together and all lovey-dovey are such a ratings winner, then why did ratings fall during the period when Bo finally told Carly he loves her, during their date, their second sex scene, when he went all he-man trying to protect her. Oh that’s right, it was every other character’s fault, not theirs, LOL. My bad!! ;)

  • Maxi

    I was a big Bo and Carly fan back in the 90s. I was so looking forward to them being together again after all that time. But they’ve fizzled this time for me. I don’t know what it is, but it’s just not there. I suspect the writers had planned to hook Bo and Carly up on a longer-term basis and that’s why they had Justin and Hope circling each other. I really think Bo and Hope’s split was meant to be long term from the get-go. But because both alternative pairings have fallen flat, I think they’ve moved on to plan B. I know Bo and Carly have fans, but maybe they just don’t make up a big enough slice of the general audience. Nice video though Ron.

  • Peppi

    THANK YOU IZZY and MAXI! The fact of the matter, plain and simple is this! When Crystal returned, Days did try to test the waters once again with a Bo and Carly pairing. Both Peter and Crystal have acknowledge it in interviews! Wally Kurth was basically put on standby for Kristian if the Bo and Carly storyline took off with viewers! It didn’t! Bo and Carly are still together right now as a “couple.” In any business, if the numbers don’t add up, cut the losses and start trying to fix the problem before EVERYBODY gets canned!

    IF Bo and Carly had been kicking ass with target groups and generating certain numbers, it wouldn’t matter how “loyal”Ken Corday is to Bo and Hope or Kristian or Peter. Bo and Carly would be in the fore front AND DEFINITELY showcased in a major Fall storyline. They’re not and that says alot! It’s easy to blame Ken C, Dena and crew because that makes some feel better! It’s THEIR fault and not the audiences. WRONG! It’s the viewers!! Ken’s sole purpose with Days is to have good enough ratings for renewal and make money off this show! Most importantly, make NBC, Sony and the affiliate’s happy, is really the only concern of the execs.

    The stats prove certain things. Go over to Jason’s site and look at the number of days certain actors have been on screen this year alongside viewer drop and ratings numbers. It tells a story and says alot! There isn’t some conspiracy going on behind the scenes, although, I’m sure some believe this to be true! Days’ audience drop wasn’t a trickle. It was a FLOOD! A combinations of storylines contributed to this, but to say Bo and Carly didn’t play a role in it is just not true. Bo and Carly are going to end! I’m pretty sure most Barly fans knew that from the beginning! Now we just have to wait and see what happens after they do!

    Oh yeah, since you like symbolism Ron. For me, Bo and Hope are like a great filet mignon and Bo and Carly are like a double cheeseburger minus the ketchup and pickle! Pretty but plain!

  • 68ANDIOU1

    well bn a carbo 1.0 from day 1 of their union i find that this could b so tptb dont want us attached,but fail to realize that its too late we’ve bn attached since the 90′s and refuse to give up carly is the woman 4 bo.they complete each other,their a mature love and theres more possibilites and room 4 them to grow.in all the years hes bn w/hope doesnt even compare to the short time carbo has had. they’ve bn more exciting to watch and have the most chemistry.tptb need to recognize that the longetivey of bope doesnt mean it works anymore.they r only hurting themselves by trying to shove bope deeper down our throats.choking the life out of this show with that may as well b the pink slip 4 DAYS.even keeping carbo apart isnt working in their advantage we want change..its an honor 4 them to b able to have CC in their camp but to misuse her talent and starpower is outrageously stupid.her fanbase is worldwide and growing steadily,we fans r digusted at the treatment she is recieving.backburner is 4 someone r thing that is not working which is not the case with carbo,even with the time they r getting we still want more,putting them in no scenes together only pisses us off and turn us away from the programing.thetruth of the matter is TPTB dropped the ball with the research of carbo fans and researching CRYSTAL CHAPPELL’S fanbase.did they not notice the huge spike in ratings when we only heard she was coming back on board.did they not notice the increased ratings when she actually arrived on our screens.seems as tho DAYS has writers just to say they write cause they know nothing of the impact r the story dealing with carbo.DAYS DO UR HOMEWORK

  • kimishell

    Loved your article! And I’m laughing out loud at some of these comments! How can anyone not see the chemistry between Peter and Crystal? Oh well- besides the lack of screen time, of course, that keeps one from seeing them together on camera!

    And did someone actually say that Bo & Carly brought the ratings down? Umm…go check your numbers! The ratings are UP on EVERY Carbo day! Days went to second place in the ratings when Bo and Carly were center stage and they had a story! (40 days of Carly Manning FTW!)

    The writers dropped the story when Peter was sent on a 2 month vacation- and the ratings plummeted. It had nothing to do with their chemistry- it was the lack of story! 1 scene a week? 30- seconds? Are you kidding me with this?

    So Ron, yes, your theory is correct! The idiots in charge are trying to make us loose interest. Its not going to work. I loved Bo and Carly in the 90′s and I love them now! I waited 17 looong years for MY SuperPOWERcouple to reunite!

    And speaking of “supercouples” how many John and Marlena fans are out there? Do you realize that if Days would have stayed with the Supercouple formula Roman and Marlena would still be together?

    Things change! I don’t see any chemistry with Bo and Hope- never have, which is why I never liked them together. I actually cheered when they killed her in that vat of acid because I just hate the character and that was before I became a Bo & Carly fanatic! I hate her even more now that she tried to BBQ Bo alive! (yeah, that is true love right there- I want my “soulmate” to try to kill me).

    Bo & Carly/Peter & Crystal are amazing together! All they need is a story to show that- but that is exactly what the writers will not give us because its the only way the Bope reunion has a chance.

    Last point- Where the HELL is Carly Manning! I am a Crystal Chappell fan! I watch this show for her! Days has the greatest actress on daytime and they aren’t writing for her? It defies all logic!!!

  • 68ANDIOU1

    KEN CORDAY’S loyalty to the bope s/l is bullshit.the numbers dont lie and to hold on to something for stupid reason shows he doesnt have the other actors interest at heart.shows r bn cancelled left and right ppl r out of jobs and those that have bn a fixture on the set will lose out.there is no way a soap couple can sweep all polls and still not get a decent S/L.BOPEis a mear meomry not worth holding on to sacarficing a whole cast 4 that is unheard of.had carbo stayed 2 gether in the 90′s wud we b in this mess IMO no.i cud sing CRYSTAL CHAPPELL praises all day but it wud b btr if TPTB did just that.using carbo as a prop is a bad judgement call.and yes i know it takes more than 1 S/L to hold a show but it sure as hell make the show worth watching.i need to end this r i will b here all day,in closing just know I WATCH ONLY 4 PR AND CC.SHE IS BINDED BY CONTRACT RIGHT NOW IM SURE BUT SHE IS NOT THE LAG-A GAG KIND OF WOMAN AS WE ALL KNOW AND SEE.SHE’S CREATIVE,SHE CAN DO HER OWN THING A SELF MADE WOMAN SO UTILIZE HER TALENT WISELY BCUZ WHEN SHE GONE DAYS WELL WILL B DRY AGAIN.WASNT THE REASON BEHIND ACQUIRING HER WAS TO REGENERATE RATINGS AND VIEWERSHIP,WELL IT NOT COMPLETE WHEN U GET VIEWERS U NEED TO HOLD THEM TO B SUCCESFUL AND DAYS ISNT DOING A VERY GOOD JOB.U CANT BLAME THE LOSE OF SOAP JOB ON THE PRESIDENT ONLY URSELF MR CORDAY AND UR WRITERS.COURSE THO YOUTUBE IS DOING A GR8 JOB OF FILLING UR PLACE WITH WHAT WE FANS WANT .CARBO 1.0 AND BEST OF 2.0,SO THXS YT,CC WILL B SOMEWHERE IN OUR LIVES.IM OUT

  • Lee

    Oh, dear … perhaps we need to examine the ratings a bit closer. When Chappell was in her lead story, the ratings did actually increase. Actually, the increase spanned several months. In fact, if we look at the stats for February of 2010 (which was at the height of the story, which was Carly’s story), the average number of viewers increased at least 150,000 more than in 2009. However, in the pits of the DT / NT Hope story … which though may involved Hope heavily, was TPTB attempt at reunitiing HoBo. Fact is, ratings slip in the summer. That is normal. Let’s do another comparison, however. Yes, the ratings are actually lower in 2010 than in 2009 when we look at the major weeks of HoBo’s storyline — prereveal, reveal, courthouse. But wait … isn’t it that if HoBo have a story, the viewers will come back. Hasn’t that always been the strong statement? Obviously point proven wrong.

    Well, I’d like a love story for Bo and Carly … but it would have to be strong. Technically speaking this would involve the firing of a Head Writer known as D Hig. Do I blame HoBo for the decreased ratings? Perhaps. But again, I’d point that to the failure of D Hig because there are more stories in the Carly / Bo / Hope saga that are complete fail.

    And Ron, I completely agree with you … I have been surprisingly shocked by the Bo and Carly fanbase — in an incredible way. Way back in the day, I thought I was one of the few tragics. I am glad to be wrong in this instance. If I was surprised, imagine Corday, lol. Bo and Carly have always proved to be the mature couple. They fit. They work well. And dammit … Team Reckappell are hawt.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/GeorGina-Lynn-Rotteau-Naylor/868525004 <fb:name linked="false" useyou="false" uid="868525004">GeorGina Lynn Rotteau-Naylor</fb:name>

    bo and hope r gonna get back together they belong together carly is gonna realize that sooner or later i can just see it after she gets out for the crimes it will only be a matter of time and carbo will be nomore long live bope at least that is what i am hoping

  • babybranning2010

    Great article and awesome video Ron. This is my honest take on this whole thing. I agree with a post here where it was mentioned that all the characters need good writing. That clearly is not there and I am surprised that Corday has not done anything about it..

    There are 2 strong fan bases involved and you simply cannot ignore one over the other. What I say is give Bo and Carly a fair chance. People tuned into see the same magic of CARBO 1.0 as they remembered them. We fell in love with this 90′s love story and we wanted to see it unfold again. But TPTB made a huge mistake in rushing the story line. They should have allowed the audience to fall in love with Bo and Carly first. With good writing they could have achieved this. Reckell and Chappell shared the screen together 1 1/2 years the first time around and with that short span they created a beautiful love story that is still cherish by all Carbo fans. Their second run has been less than 1 year, yet they have attracted new fans in spite of the questionable writing. Altogether 2 1/2 years (with a 17 year gap) versus 25+ years of Bope.. Yes, given the number of years the choice should not cause Corday a headache, but it has. This shows that a limited on screen relationship has given a 25+ year relationship a run for its money. If Chappell and Reckell did not leave in the 90′s I am sure that Carbo would be the superpower couple of DOOL and if the roles were reversed and Hope had returned after 16 years, majority would be fighting for Bo and Carly to stay together. Just picture the scenario and think about.

    So what is my point, you ask? Simple – give Bo and Carly a good story and longer scenes. They do not need 25 years, but a reasonable amount of time along with an epic love story, 1.0 style. Redeem all 3 characters to their original self, develop them as individuals. Show us why the character of Bo would be torn between the two women. A good triangle should be set on equal footing. That is what I consider fair play. Bo and Carly were not given their fair share of screen time to create their 1.0 magic. In my opinion kudos to Chappell and Reckell for the wonders their doing in the 2-3 second scenes. Once Carbo has been developed then by all means bring on the triangle. Now that would be fair game….!!!

    One last point – Some one mentioned that the March ratings went down because of Carbo… Wow, you must have great faith in Carbo to think that they can push the ratings with 2-3 second scenes. Well, I sincerely hope that the fall reunion of Bope does not push the ratings down the toilet..!!! I wouldn’t want you to be disappointed by them as well…. I mean with all the hype about the reunion has the ratings gone through the roof?

    Good luck Mr. Corday……

  • Carbo

    Thank you Ron, for the story and the Carbo support. I agree with you that it was never intended for Carbo to stay together. It was always about Bope. CC was mainly brought in to be a prop until they finally reunited. What they never counted on was us, the Carbo fans. Many of us have waited 20 years to see a Carbo reunion. They were amazing. Chemistry like that is hard to find.

    I feel like CC/PR have been holding back with Carbo 2.0 because they knew what was in the cards. The viewers weren’t suppose to get too attached (If they did what they did in the 90′s now, it’d be curtains for Bope.). Just attached enough to wait it out until Bope got back together. This is evident by the lack of Carbo history shown (And what little was shown was by Carly, showing she was feeling more about them then Bo was). If they really wanted the viewers of today to understand their feelings for each other based on so little time together and to root for this couple they would have let the viewers in on a little more back story.

    Because of this I have to disagree with the person who stated that they were given a chance and failed because they haven’t delivered the same chemistry. They have never been given a chance! Carbo 2.0 isn’t a love story. It was never about CC or Carbo! Carly was just a believable distraction for Bo, fueling Hope’s psycho behavior. NT Hope was the story. That was what was suppose to save Days. Hmm….how’d that work for you, KC?

    For some reason he keeps on riding a sinking ship. It’s fine to be loyal (because that’s what I think it’s about) to KA, but he need to think about what’s more important. If he’s not careful then he’s going to get his wish- Bope, the “supercouple” together til the end, which will be a lot sooner than he thinks.

    I’m extremely sad for CC because I think she’s been severely disrespected throughout this whole thing. An actress with her talent?… it’s such a waste.

    Here’s the way I see it. What have they got to lose? Carbo already has an extremely large and vocal fanbase. This would only get bigger with a Carbo love story. What’s popular right now? Twilight. Why because of the love story; the chemistry between the characters. This is the over haul that Days needs. A real love story. A very well written love story. A real love story that ends in a real wedding. When was the last time Days had a real wedding?

    This is what will save you. Not something that’s been rehashed over and over again. Bope was yesterday. Carbo is today. Change is okay. We voted for change in the last election. We want change. We want change. We want change.

    On a last note, just because we don’t see them doesn’t mean we’ve forgotten. We have waited 20 years and now that it’s within our grasp we are not going anywhere.

    A CARBO LOVE STORY. That’s what we want. Go ahead and try it, it’ll be okay. Remember, change is good.

    Once again, thanks Ron, for the enlightening article and the Carbo love.

  • karlie Rogers

    I so love this! Bo and Carly are the NEW super couple and deserve screen time. We want them on our screens and casting them away in the shadows is not going to make the Carbos go away, it will only make us stronger. 25 years doesnt mean anything. 25 years of what? breaking up getting together breaking up getting together breaking up gettin together breaking up– you get the point. WE ARE TIRED OF IT. It is time for something new and somethig that is real and genuine. Its time to stop hiding Carbo and the greatness they have. It is time to put them front and center where they belong!

  • koolk4

    LOVE THE VIDEO!!!! Thanks for your opinion as well. I, myself, believe the writers are definitely missing the boat when it comes to CarBo!!!! They have SO MUCH chemistry together!! There doesn’t have to be a “said” end game…as couples (the rooting couples) can & HAVE changed!!!! I for one will continue to root for Bo&Carly until the end of time!!

  • Lily

    Yes, I’m sure the writers and producers got together and thought, “Gee, Carly and Carbo are the reasons our ratings are so high and why our show got renewed for another year, so let’s backburner them, and reunite a couple that everyone is sick of and will make viewers tune out, so that our ratings tank and we get cancelled.” Yeah right!!! ROTFLMAO. I can’t believe what I’m reading. This is hilarious. I’m sorry to tell you, but I don’t think there’s any great conspiracy folks. It’s pretty simple really: Carbo hasn’t gone over well with the audience at large and TPTB have changed direction.

  • olddoolfan

    Thanks Sally Silver – I agree. I am not sure whether either fanbase here would advocate for “Bope will be reunited” or “Bo & Carly should be sent to happily ever after”. The show has landed on a goldmine here as Crystal Chappell pointed out in Boston.

    What do shows want more than anything else? A triangle backed by two equal fanbases.

    They have this in Bo & Carly and Bope imo.

    I say watch out. Corday might have played his sentimental card mid April – August but clearly the sentimental card has no value to this show.

    They have to play to the obvious splits in audience and in Bo & Carly and Bope they have a potential for an awesome triangle.

    Carly and Hope are VERY different and also offer very different things for Bo. Peter Reckell has wonderful chemistry with Crystal Chappell. I am not as sold on the dynamic between Peter and Kristian but truth is there are people who are and really THAT is what matters.

    I’ve never wanted a one sided grand love tale for Bo & Carly that didn’t involve Hope. What I don’t want however is for this show to cast this opportunity aside.

    Since April 6th Bo and Carly have shared scenes in 15 episodes. Those scenes have all pretty well been short and largely used as a plot push for Bope. For people to continue to talk up this ratings failure as being at the hands of Bo & Carly is total lunacy. This entire summer has been about Hope .. and to a much lesser extend Bo.

    If anything the problem for the character of Carly has been putting her in this mindnumbing tale with Chloe / Daniel and Phillip since March. This long time Carly fan continues to want to scream “wha????!!!!!!”. I hear that is done by November though .. praise the soap gods. Perhaps we will see the much needed paternity shift for Melanie. Larry or Bo .. I care not but something needs to be done.

  • olddoolfan

    “Gee, Carly and Carbo are the reasons our ratings are so high and why our show got renewed for another year, so let’s backburner them, and reunite a couple that everyone is sick of and will make viewers tune out, so that our ratings tank and we get cancelled.”

    ^^^

    I actually think the conversation probably went

    Ken Corday
    “What? Bo and Carly were supposed to be a temporary plot tool. Noone told me that they would have a following from all those years ago and not only that, continue to grow it.”

    Gary Tomlin
    {internally says to self, I knew what I was doing in bringing Crystal Chappell back}
    “Supercouples are SO last century. We should go with that is working on screen. We lost Marlena and John and Kayla and Patch without hurting ourselves. I think we should make the most of this.”

    Ken Corday
    “No, protect Bope. Ask my pal Higley to write something ‘brilliant’ and make sure that Reckell and Chappell are not on screen so much”

  • Carbo

    I agree with the triangle angle. I like the odds better with a 50% chance they’d get together rather than a 0% chance. I have faith that Carbo will prevail. All they need is a fair shot. Let them demonstrate what they’re capable of. Allow them to rekindle the magic of the 90′s.

  • Carbo

    “It’s pretty simple really: Carbo hasn’t gone over well with the audience at large and TPTB have changed direction.”

    Says who? You? Where are your facts? Changed direction from what? There was never a Carbo. At least not our definition of Carbo. How was Carbo given a chance? They were just thrown together like they do with everyone else on this show nowadays.

    Yet, despite this they have more chemistry than any other couple. There are a lot of us Carbo 1.0 fans still around, but obviously there are still a large number of people who watch Days now who didn’t see their LOVE STORY back in the 90′s. Revisit this. Explain how Carbo 2.0 could feel as quickly about each other as they do. If they were suppose to be given a chance- a chance to see how they would “go over,” then they would have done this. Instead we get, “Carly, you’re a home wrecker,” “Carly, Bope have so much history,” “Carly they were meant to be and always find their way back to each other.”

    BUT it’s not too late. We, Carbo 1.0 fans, are still here and we’re not going anywhere. You, TPTB, have the opportunity to build on an already massive fanbase.

    Go the triangle route. I would love to see this. CC/PR do angst like no other. The things they can say with their eyes. But don’t disrespect us. We are here too- larger, louder and even more loyal!!!

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